{"id":29200,"date":"2016-07-10T12:39:27","date_gmt":"2016-07-10T15:39:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rioonwatch.org\/?p=29200"},"modified":"2020-08-19T11:37:43","modified_gmt":"2020-08-19T14:37:43","slug":"land-registration-in-brazil-an-interview-with-alex-ferreira-magalhaes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/?p=29200","title":{"rendered":"Land Registration in Brazil: An Interview with Alex Ferreira Magalh\u00e3es"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Below is an edited transcript of a selection of interview questions directed at\u00a0<\/span><\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1XJ8dqz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Alex Ferreira Magalh\u00e3es<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, Professor of Urban and Environmental Law at the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro and author of <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/29EWbgy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Os Direitos das Favelas<\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/29AGR4j\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Legal Rights\u00a0of Favelas<\/a>), with questions provided by students visiting from the Real Estate Appraisal and Assessment Program at Lakeland College (Canada). <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<h3><b>What is the most common system for registering land in Brazil?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The most common is a system which does not give you absolute certainty that you are the owner. People can question your ownership. You are presumed the owner as long as you are not questioned on your property. If someone questions it, you have to investigate if you are the owner or not. <\/span><\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1WtMdAW\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">torrens system<\/a>, which is another of the two or three land registration systems here, doesn\u2019t allow this possibility. In the torrens system, you are the owner, and there is no doubt about that. However, it\u2019s not commonly used. We have noticed, for example, in the state of Goias, in the center-west region\u00a0of Brazil near where the capital Bras\u00edlia is, that the torrens system is used in rural areas, but not in urban areas.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The most common system does not give you that level of certainty. But people don\u2019t feel insecure because of that. People in general feel secure and think that the system is enough and is alright, so it\u2019s largely used. The problem is a large number of people don\u2019t have a legal title record. The property is not registered so people have a title of purchase, but not a record. That\u2019s the problem.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For example in the <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1smXtT6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">French system<\/a>, when you purchase the property, you are considered the owner. You don\u2019t have to record the title, you are not obliged to do that. That\u2019s not true in Brazil. In Brazil, you have a contract of purchase, of land. You are not already the owner because you have to pick this title and present it to the real estate registry and then once you get the record, you are considered the landowner.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>Why doesn\u2019t every homeowner record their land so there\u2019s no doubt about the title?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Because it\u2019s a longer, more delayed, and more difficult process. You have to get all the proof you would need for an eventual judicial action over the asset at the Registry. And it\u2019s proof anticipating an eventual challenge. You economize work and money by not going to these lengths just in case.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>Is there any registration fraud?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Fraud is a big thing in the Brazilian legal system. American researcher <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1WRixN8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">James Holston<\/a> has written a lot on this. One symptomatic example: around ten years ago, the National Justice Council, an organ that regulates the Brazilian courts, decided to do a full inquiry into the registries of the state of Par\u00e1 in the north of Brazil, at the mouth of the Amazon. They discovered that the sum of the properties registered at the<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">registries in Par\u00e1, if you total the quantity of land recorded, was twice the area of the territory. It was an enormous fraud. Fraud is extremely common because the system is not trustworthy and doesn&#8217;t work well. We\u2019ve seen some progress in the last forty or fifty years, but fraud still occurs. <\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>Wouldn&#8217;t people want to get their land registered to ensure there is no fraud (if they don&#8217;t anticipate a challenge) regarding the property that they&#8217;re purchasing, or to ensure that someone doesn&#8217;t have a second registration on it?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p>The system gives you some ways to defend yourself and your land so you have some guarantees. And we have a kind of culture in Brazilian courts where it&#8217;s very difficult to dispute information from a Notary. Generally, a judge trusts what the Notary tells them. There is a strong culture of defending ownership. The landowner historically has strong political power. The Brazilian State is dominated by these people.<\/p>\n<h3><b>How is property tax established and how much is paid per property?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It is a multi-step process. The first step is that the City government registers the real estate. The second step is that the City government evaluates the value of the real estate. The third step is that the City government decides based on that value how much it will charge. This value decided upon in the third step is called <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">valor venal<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">venal<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> value).<\/span><\/p>\n<p>But there is also a dynamic of the influence of landowners over public management. Many landowners manage to not be heavily taxed.<\/p>\n<h3><b>Who is exempt from paying property taxes in Brazil?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p>Religious institutions, any place of worship, though that doesn\u2019t extend to where the religious leader lives. There are some other cases such as small rural properties and public properties. The municipality cannot tax state or federal assets. International representatives are exempt too, such as embassies. There are also some exemptions for low-income housing but it is a decision of each municipality to create this or not, the system doesn\u2019t obligate the municipality to do this.<\/p>\n<h3><b>In favelas, when they receive rights to their land, do they receive title, or a limited time lease?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p>Both are possible. The concept of how to title the lands is a political decision. Honestly, there are many people who think you shouldn\u2019t give titles in favelas because then they are more exposed to <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1l6Oo5g\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">expulsion by market forces<\/a>. You can have titles of other types for a certain period of time, but a decently long period of time, like 99\u00a0years.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Just to give an example, a few months ago I was in a favela in <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1ysPODX\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Niter\u00f3i<\/a> where the Rio state government was\u00a0giving concession of use titles (<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">titulos de concess\u00e3o de uso<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">) because they feared that if they gave over the land fully, the resident would become landowner and the City government would expropriate them from their lands.\u00a0<\/span>When you have a private owner, any government can expropriate. But when you have a concession of use, you are on public property, so one public entity cannot expropriate the assets of another.<\/p>\n<h3><b>Is Vila Aut\u00f3dromo some kind of exception to this, since it is state land, but the city is expropriating residents?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p>It\u2019s a case that is being studied today as an example of what we call the <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1qyn1XD\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">state of exception<\/a>, or rights of exception. There&#8217;s a famous book by Italian author <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1U7KevT\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Giorgio Agamben<\/a> called <em><a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1OY8aQG\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">State of Exception<\/a><\/em>, which is a theoretical reference on this topic. It has been widely read and debated in the academic world here. In <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1o6rEIS\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Vila Aut\u00f3dromo<\/a>, despite being public land with concession of use, they are being expropriated. It is a process that is legally questionable.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>Below is an edited transcript of a selection of interview questions directed at\u00a0Alex Ferreira Magalh\u00e3es, Professor of Urban and Environmental Law at the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro and author of Os Direitos das <a class=\"mh-excerpt-more\" href=\"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/?p=29200\" title=\"Land Registration in Brazil: An Interview with Alex Ferreira Magalh\u00e3es\">[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"author":51,"featured_media":27866,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1293,1267,1854,1284,335,1329],"tags":[2123,282,2122,434,936,1383,354,744,1616,4],"writer":[1946],"translator":[],"illustrator":[],"photographer":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-29200","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-evictionswatch","8":"category-gentrificationwatch","9":"category-housingwatch","10":"category-interviews-profiles","11":"category-policies","12":"category-by-international-observers","13":"tag-explainer","14":"tag-housing","15":"tag-housing-law","16":"tag-land-tenure","17":"tag-land-titling","18":"tag-land-use","19":"tag-law","20":"tag-policy-critique","21":"tag-reference","22":"tag-vila-autodromo","23":"writer-anna-cash"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29200","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/51"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=29200"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29200\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/27866"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=29200"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=29200"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=29200"},{"taxonomy":"writer","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fwriter&post=29200"},{"taxonomy":"translator","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftranslator&post=29200"},{"taxonomy":"illustrator","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fillustrator&post=29200"},{"taxonomy":"photographer","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fphotographer&post=29200"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}