{"id":41500,"date":"2018-04-30T05:00:14","date_gmt":"2018-04-30T08:00:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rioonwatch.org\/?p=41500"},"modified":"2020-10-20T10:41:04","modified_gmt":"2020-10-20T13:41:04","slug":"the-solution-for-the-crisis-is-in-the-favelas-and-peripheries-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/?p=41500","title":{"rendered":"The Solution for the Crisis is in the Favelas and Peripheries [INTERVIEW]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><em><a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2hLcifa\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Clique aqui para Por<\/strong><strong>tugu\u00eas<\/strong><strong><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-23766\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rioonwatch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/PT-e1439583827971.png\" \/><\/strong><\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>For the original article in Portuguese by Lu\u00eds Brasilino published by Le Monde Diplomatique Brasil click\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2hLcifa\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a>.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<h4>Who are the new collectives tackling the collision of crises that has affected Brazil these last few years? And how do they act, organizing the population of the peripheries and <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2BDqez7\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">questioning the habits<\/a> of the Left\u2019s traditional structures? Check out the following interview with <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2vHO8Mp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Raull Santiago<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1CFBPI0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Coletivo Papo Reto<\/a> (Straight Talk Collective), a group made up of young residents of the <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1rtohzT\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Alem\u00e3o<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/LRHeDS\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Penha<\/a> favela complexes in Rio de Janeiro&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1kZa3h9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">North Zone<\/a>.<\/h4>\n<p>\u201cThe <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1Whul8s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">solution<\/a>\u00a0for the crisis is in the favelas and peripheries. Just see what we\u2019re doing by ourselves, just listen to us, just stop watching us <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2alCmJC\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">through the crosshairs of a police officer\u2019s rifle<\/a>.\u201d This is the assertion of Raull Santiago from the Rio-based Coletivo Papo Reto, made up of residents from the Alem\u00e3o and Penha complexes where the collective works. <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2FrJ2n7\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Founded in 2014<\/a>, Papo Reto\u2019s goal is, on the one hand, to report on events, protests, and demands for audiences within the favelas, and on the other, to show \u201cthe favela\u2019s reality\u201d to <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/PhieSeries\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">audiences beyond the communities<\/a>, countering the <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2bLoScc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">stigmas reproduced by the mainstream media<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In the movement\u2019s words: \u201cA lot of what happens in the territory passes through the lenses of the collective, which tries to produce coverage that is different from that of the corporate media. That is, our coverage is \u2018from the favela resident to the favela itself,\u2019 or in short: Us for Us&#8230; The Us for Us [<a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1Qt2jC3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">movement<\/a>] is a simple and strong security system for activists and residents in <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2tuJsmQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">times of war<\/a>\u00a0based on dialogue and an exchange of information. These days the collective maintains a network of residents from all over Complexo do Alem\u00e3o who are in touch with each other 24\/7. This is the idea behind the independent communication vehicle, <a href=\"http:\/\/nyti.ms\/2pqGAsC\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Papo Reto<\/a>, which puts the concept of \u2018<a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1qwWfU2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Us for Us!<\/a>\u2019 into practice.\u201d Over 40,000 people follow Coletivo Papo Reto\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2KeQG7A\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">profile on Facebook<\/a>. Check out the following interview with Raull Santiago.<\/p>\n<h3>Le Monde Diplomatique Brasil:\u00a0<strong>What is your collective built around? What are the agendas and achievements for collectivity that have resulted from its actions?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong>Raull Santiago<\/strong>: Coletivo Papo Reto acts, in short, on two fronts: 1) <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1VWsdlk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Resistance Communication<\/a>\u2014we use <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2xHgmnH\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">audiovisual content<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2BA1Kbw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">social networks as independent communication tools<\/a> to give visibility to or to stimulate actions that seek to bring about an end to <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2vIIK89\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">police violence<\/a>, to guarantee various rights, including the right to life. With these tools we can <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2bLoScc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">dispute narratives<\/a> about our reality, showing that there are, indeed, problems in the favela, but that most of them result from the government going about investments the wrong way here, many times only reaching us through the Department of Security and the <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2xZvBdS\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">crosshairs of a policeman\u2019s rifle<\/a>. We also use this side of Coletivo Papo Reto to advocate for other issues, but they all revolve around guaranteeing access to various things considered basic rights, in addition to respect and life. 2) <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1qLKitz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Affirmative Publicity<\/a>\u2014on this front, we use audiovisual content and social networks to show that, despite local conflicts, there are still <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2GSi4ps\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a lot of amazing things going on<\/a>\u2014ideas, people, projects that positively transform Complexo do Alem\u00e3o, for the most part independently. This happens through interview programs, discussions online, varied artistic and <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2tcdEXX\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">cultural interventions<\/a> that we mobilize through the network, among other means. Our type of communication has strength in both directions, both to mobilize people for something that\u2019s still going to happen, and to share something that is happening or that has already happened.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>LMDB: How is the current crisis affecting the day-to-day life of the collective and its activism?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong>Santiago<\/strong>: Independent of government, favelas are always in crisis because the main investments in public policies for favelas always come from the Security Secretariat and from a <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2xqPlHH\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">logic of war<\/a>. This creates extremely serious problems that, in the context of a &#8220;crisis,&#8221; become much worse, because local violations\u2014which include countless extortions, aggressions, forged situations, or even executions\u2014are seen as being of second-tier importance or barely get any attention, now that the said governmental crisis <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/217B4UO\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">saps up all visibility when viewed as more urgent<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2CjdnmY\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The crisis in the favela is daily<\/a>, it has always been there. It only increases in scale when the crisis reaches other classes. Meanwhile, we keep increasing the sad and serious number that makes us the <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2DLfjp9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">country that kills the most<\/a>, while we\u2019re <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2EkPugy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">third in the world<\/a> in terms of the size of our poor, black imprisoned population. That\u2019s so serious! Our rates of death or imprisonment are the main crisis.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>LMDB:\u00a0<\/strong><strong>What are the main problems? The lack of material resources? The precariousness of public services? <\/strong><strong>State and non-state violence?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong>Santiago<\/strong>: All the above situations are problems. In Complexo do Alem\u00e3o, for example, public policy takes the form of police. <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2qjNH3c\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The cable car that became world famous<\/a> is now closed and falling down\u2014it has been like that for over a year. Major basic services working precariously and with\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2u0YQwd\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">zero investment in art, culture<\/a>, or improving access to <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1yHzFH2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">education<\/a>. We can\u2019t accept the <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2xZvBdS\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">army invading the favela<\/a> as a public policy. This doesn\u2019t build anything positive. On the contrary.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>LMDB:\u00a0<\/strong><strong>Does the current political and economic crisis offer opportunities for the collective or affect it negatively? Why?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong>Santiago<\/strong>: We were born from the crisis, the crisis of survival, to live among conflicts, to try to show that the <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2bLoScc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">favela is amazing<\/a> in the midst of a society that holds huge <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2hL509r\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">prejudice against our place<\/a>. The crisis increases the problems, makes things <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1l6Oo5g\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">more expensive<\/a>, steals visibility away from our urgent demands. I think that\u2019s the issue.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>LMDB:\u00a0<\/strong><strong>What challenges and perspectives do you foresee in the future of the collective\u2019s work?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong>Santiago<\/strong>: The challenge is to share, to mobilize more people to <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2HHIjTE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">see themselves as multimedia<\/a> and to take part actively, in the context of great violence, <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2n5qSQD\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">mainly on the part of the State<\/a>. And, in the context of the said crisis and <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2COOYFa\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">on the verge of election<\/a>, it\u2019s to try to stimulate critical consciousness, so that the favela takes a stand and advocates for a change of situation. The solution for the crisis <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bit.ly\/FavelaModelo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">is in the favelas and peripheries<\/a>. Just see what we\u2019re doing by ourselves, just <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2hxPBbu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">listen to us<\/a>, just stop watching us through the crosshairs of a police officer\u2019s rifle.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>LMDB:\u00a0<\/strong><strong>Based on your specific agenda, what is the most urgent issue for today\u2019s Brazil?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong>Santiago<\/strong>: Brazil needs to stop <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2idxEWp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">killing its black and poor youth<\/a>. The racial issue, which executes 60,000 people per year, which incarcerates <em>en masse<\/em>, making us the third biggest incarcerated population in the world, is something extremely serious. We need to talk about <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/1ttMnJX\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">racism<\/a>, we need to <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2gPnw50\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">talk about new drug policies<\/a> and an end to the <a href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/2vSoob1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">war on drugs<\/a>, we need to guarantee life in the peripheries. Life is urgent!<\/p>\n<p><em>Lu\u00eds Brasilino is the Editor of Le Monde Diplomatique Brasil.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>Clique aqui para Portugu\u00eas For the original article in Portuguese by Lu\u00eds Brasilino published by Le Monde Diplomatique Brasil click\u00a0here.\u00a0 Who are the new collectives tackling the collision of crises that has affected Brazil these <a class=\"mh-excerpt-more\" href=\"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/?p=41500\" title=\"The Solution for the Crisis is in the Favelas and Peripheries [INTERVIEW]\">[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"author":156,"featured_media":41502,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1294,1288,1268,1271,1284,329,1330],"tags":[498,1606,1653,756,258,32,182,203,1900,1366,2679,37,1990,518,193,2481,2140,809,270,1403,2444,259],"writer":[2708],"translator":[2572],"illustrator":[],"photographer":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-41500","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-communitymedia","8":"category-highlight","9":"category-favelaculture","10":"category-favelaqualities","11":"category-interviews-profiles","12":"category-solutions","13":"category-translation","14":"tag-citizenship","15":"tag-coletivo-papo-reto","16":"tag-community-media","17":"tag-community-organizing","18":"tag-community-solution","19":"tag-complexo-do-alemao","20":"tag-government-neglect","21":"tag-inequality","22":"tag-media-narrative","23":"tag-analyzing-media-portrayal-of-favelas","24":"tag-narrative-shifting","25":"tag-north-zone","26":"tag-nos-por-nos","27":"tag-organizing-tactics","28":"tag-penha","29":"tag-police-violence","30":"tag-prison-system","31":"tag-public-security","32":"tag-resistance","33":"tag-solution","34":"tag-war-on-drugs","35":"tag-youth","36":"writer-luis-brasilino","37":"translator-julia-hara-medeiros"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41500","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/156"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=41500"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41500\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/41502"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=41500"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=41500"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=41500"},{"taxonomy":"writer","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fwriter&post=41500"},{"taxonomy":"translator","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftranslator&post=41500"},{"taxonomy":"illustrator","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fillustrator&post=41500"},{"taxonomy":"photographer","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rioonwatch.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fphotographer&post=41500"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}